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NGC 4878

NGC 4878, LEDA 44747, MCG-01-33-064, III 758, GC 3345

RA: 13h 00m 20.26s
Dec: −06° 06′ 13.7″

Con: Virgo
Ch: MSA:795, U2:284, SA:14

Ref: SIMBAD, Corwin (2004)

(reference key)

Type: galaxy

Mag: B=14.5, V=?

Size: 1.479′ x 1.348′
PA: 10°

History and Accurate Positions for the NGC/IC Objects (Corwin 2004)

NGC 4878, NGC 4879, and NGC 4888. Alister Ling pointed out that my original "short story" on N4878, N4879, and N4888 is confusing. Indeed it was. It is also obviously one of the cases that needs more attention. So, here is a revision.

All three NGC objects were found by WH on 23 March 1789, and all are refered to 26 Virginis. Here are his observations:

N4878,9 III 758,9 20m 55s f, 1d 53m n Two nebulae, both vF, vS. N4888 II 778 21m 12s f, 1d 54m n F, S, sf a double star.

JH recorded only II 778 (h1505): 12 51 46.9, -05 09 16 pF, vS, E, psbM (1830 position)

D'Arrest has, like WH, one position for N4878,9, and another for N4888. As always, I'm stuck on his Latin descriptions, but I can make out that there is an 11th magnitude star 5.5s preceding, 1.5m north of his observed place (12 53 09, -05 21.3; 1861) for N4878,9. He also mentions WH's double star near N4888; his 1861 position for that is 12 53 26, -05 19.6. Note that his difference in positions between the objects is close to WH's: 17s in RA and 1.7m in Dec. That is it for the pre-NGC observations. Post-NGC, I've found the following.

1) Bigourdan has eight observations each for N4878 and N4888, but could not identify N4879 with certainty.

2) Ormond Stone also lists N4878 and N4888 as nebulae in the 1893 Leander McCormick list (the novae here are in IC1), but has nothing about N4879.

3) Reinmuth has N4878 as an eF, eS stellar object or star (it is a star) 1.7' south-preceding N4879, the galaxy.

4) MCG has -01-33-064 as N4878, -064a as "4879?" (but this is a defect on the blue POSS1), and -066 as 4888.

5) the first "edition" of ESGC put N4878 at 12 57.8 -05 50 (1950.0), and N4879 = N4888 at 12 58.0 -05 48. When Brian Skiff measured the ESGC positions, he followed my ESGC identifications; the second is clearly wrong since (as I now know; ahem) WH claimed to have seen all three on the same night.

So, it is clear that there are only two bright galaxies here. GSC has only one (which I'll call "NGC 4878:"; note the colon), and also misses the bright double star (which WH mentioned) just preceding N4888. There is a star in GSC about 1.5 arcmin southeast of N4878 that I suspect is WH's second "nebula." It is a bit closer to the galaxy than is Reinmuth's star. Here are some positions, either from GSC, or measured by me on POSS1:

Object RA (1950.0) Dec Source Adopted identifications (source) Star 12 57 38.9 -05 50 59 HC NGC 4878? (Reinmuth) Galaxy 44.58 04.9 GSC NGC 4878: (Big, Stone, MCG, HC) Star 50.06 31.3 GSC NGC 4879: (HC) Galaxy 58 00.7 48 22 HC NGC 4888 (All)

The adopted identifications are based on the assumption that Herschel recorded one of the stars south of the preceding galaxy, thinking it was a second nebula. If he saw the preceding star, then it should be N4878, and N4879 is clearly the galaxy. If he saw the following star -- as I believe he did (it is brighter and nearer the galaxy than the preceding star) -- then the numbers should be reversed: N4878 becomes the galaxy, and N4879 is the star. There is no question about NGC 4888.

Historical observations

William Herschel (c.1784)

Synonyms: H III-758

Discovered in 1789 by William Herschel with an 18.7-inch f/13 speculum telescope. He called it "Two nebulae [NGC 4878 & NGC 4879], both vF, vS."

Published comments

Sulentic & Tifft (1973)

The RNGC (Sulentic and Tifft 1973) notes that this is a 14.5 mag galaxy. Their coded description reads R,DIF,SLEL,SBO), STELNUC.

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